Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: Illegal Again?

Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: in trouble all over again

Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht is in trouble all over again.

The latest challenge to the book’s legality comes not from a small town Texas police department.  It doesn’t come from a big city Texas police department either, and it’s not from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.  This time, it’s an entirely new group that’s making the challenge: Discordians.

“Discordians?”  Yes.  “Plagiarism” has now been added to the list of charges against the book.  But the charges are vague.

“This book contains work that was plagiarized….”

“This book contains works penned by several of my personal friends….’

“You can read a lot of this free on the internet. That’s where Loveshade got it. Without permission.”

Interestingly, none of them mention any actual names of pieces or people.  Also interesting, none of them have “Amazon Verified Purchase” under their names, meaning they might–or might not–have seen the book.

Now if only this tempest in a teapot would explode to the point the general public would see it.  That would be something.

But are the claims true?  Get the book and see for yourself: http://www.amazon.com/Ek-sen-trik-kuh-Discordia-The-Tales-Shamlicht/product-reviews/1937536181/


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16 Responses to Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: Illegal Again?

  1. Pet Girl says:

    Everything Discordian is a ripoff! The ghosts of Malaclypse and Omar will be after you! lol

  2. Because of the accusations of the book being a rip off of the work of others, I’m here to give an accounting of the contents. I freely admit I only counted for each factor once, so any of these counts could be off by a page or two. But they’re pretty darn close:

    Number of pages in Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht: 204
    Not counting five blank pages used for spacing, number of pages in the book: 199
    Number of pages specifically laid out for the book: 199
    Number of pages that contain material never before available anywhere: 169
    Number of pages that contain art (not counting the art on the front and back cover): 95
    Number of pages that contain original art (not counting the original art on the front and back covers): 82
    Number of pages that contain no material by the editors but do contain material available before the book’s publication: 5

  3. I don’t generally get involved in Discordian discussions, but in this case I will.

    Everything in Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht was 1) submitted for the book; 2) is listed in the book under the Creative Commons or GNU license under which its creator(s) placed it to allow adaptation and commercial use; 3) first appeared elsewhere and is used with the creator(s)’ permission; 4) is public domain; 5) and/or qualifies under “fair use,” i.e. short quotes. If you did not give permission for your work to be used in the book, did not release it under a license for commercial use by anyone who wanted to use it, and did not release it into the public domain so that anyone could use and alter it for any purpose, then your work is not in the book. The only exception could be something such as a short quote that qualifies under fair use according to U.S. law.

    Anyone who had any questions or concerns about unauthorized use of their work could have simply contacted Reverend Loveshade or one of his associates (i.e. me) and asked. No one did.

  4. Vernon Avaritt says:

    This is just silly

  5. Rev. Bootie says:

    Don’t you people get it? Then I’ll spell it out for you. This whole thing is a publicity stunt engineered by Reverend Loveshade and The Good Reverend Roger who by the way–but I’ll tell you later about this.

    It’s a SCAM people! This book has been a Jake for five years. It’s time for the jake to end and I’m the one who’s going to end it.

  6. TawTew the Naturally Perfumed says:

    I just heard you may be getting a new publisher. That’s great! Will this be another publisher or are you leaving the one you have now?

  7. Pet Girl says:

    The plagarism claims are gone! I just checked Amazon. Guess you won!

    • Unfortunately, it’s not that simple. Making changes to an Amazon.com listing can be quite difficult–note that the Steve Jackson Games version of Principia Discordia has had the wrong authors listed for years. Of course misidentifying the authors is a long-standing tradition for Principia Discordia.

      There were changes we’ve wanted to make to the Amazon.com listing for Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia from the beginning. For one thing, the publication date is wrong–the date of supposed publication is before the semi-semi-final draft was even done, let alone semi-final and final. It’s several months too early. Also we wanted S. John Ross/Pope Leo listed as the foreword writer. In addition the design credits have errors.

      We are trying to get Amazon to pull the listing altogether and start over.

      • Pet Girl says:

        The comments are back again! What’s up with that?

        • What’s up is really complicated. That’s a nice way of saying unfortunately we aren’t at liberty to say what’s up right now. We do appreciate your asking, and wish we could give you a better answer.

  8. Penn Denn says:

    Roger is out there.

  9. TiGeRR phan says:

    The publishers a fool. Of course none of us read the book we wouldn’t touch it or anything Loveslut fondled with his filthy perverted fingers. We had no idea what was in it and don’t care. We know its nothing but sick filth. PD.COMERS: 100 Loveshades: 0!

  10. Mr. Hiedler says:

    Wir will make all your religion books illegal! Except for astrologie and nordischen Gotter. Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

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